What happened in our nursing homes in recent weeks is a direct result of more than 20 years of neglect by all Governments.
So says the former General Secretary of the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation Liam Doran of the impact Covid-19 has had on residential care settings in particular.
The Kilkenny man says elder care has been the poor relation in our health service for years.
He spoke about this and more with Eimear on the show.